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	<description>Emergent Expressions of Spirituality in the Cape Town area</description>
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		<title>Comment on christianity21 &#8211; go sisters go! by Fiona Boshoff</title>
		<link>http://capeconversation.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/christianity21-go-sisters-go/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona Boshoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the invitation to comment Nic. We could do something like this, &amp; although new to Cape Town, I am beginning to meet some superb women here who would have a lot to say. At Amahoro, the one woman main speaker, Rene August, gave up part of her time for us to hear from those who had something to say but hadn&#039;t felt they&#039;d had a space. And the whole structure of the Christianity 21 conference sought to do the same - as they put it, 
&#039;[remove] the limitations and distinctions between &quot;presenters&quot; and &quot;participants.&quot; &#039; I like that idea! Fiona</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the invitation to comment Nic. We could do something like this, &amp; although new to Cape Town, I am beginning to meet some superb women here who would have a lot to say. At Amahoro, the one woman main speaker, Rene August, gave up part of her time for us to hear from those who had something to say but hadn&#8217;t felt they&#8217;d had a space. And the whole structure of the Christianity 21 conference sought to do the same &#8211; as they put it,<br />
&#8216;[remove] the limitations and distinctions between &#8220;presenters&#8221; and &#8220;participants.&#8221; &#8216; I like that idea! Fiona</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finding comfort in our unanswered prayers by Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KIm,
Thanks for being the doorway into an interesting exploration. Also,for allowing the process to go wherever it flowed. Great facilitation on a most pertinent subject. 

I agree this was just the start.

Be blessed
Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KIm,<br />
Thanks for being the doorway into an interesting exploration. Also,for allowing the process to go wherever it flowed. Great facilitation on a most pertinent subject. </p>
<p>I agree this was just the start.</p>
<p>Be blessed<br />
Andrew</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finding comfort in our unanswered prayers by Nic Paton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nic Paton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim
Well done on both preparing/planning, (and then abandoning these plans), to facilitate a fruitful space. The conversation that ensued was really quality and brought us closer to a place of initimacy. This was in evidence because of the mixture of awkwardness and as you say &quot;euphoria&quot;, and the fact that people spoke with a high degree of spontenaity and honesty, not hiding their emotions. Neither was anyone deluded as to our need for God and for one another. I think there was a good balance between feeling and theology, and once again, the our coherence/truth was to be found not in &quot;unity&quot; but in our diversity and difference.

Divided we stand; united we fall ... Viva!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim<br />
Well done on both preparing/planning, (and then abandoning these plans), to facilitate a fruitful space. The conversation that ensued was really quality and brought us closer to a place of initimacy. This was in evidence because of the mixture of awkwardness and as you say &#8220;euphoria&#8221;, and the fact that people spoke with a high degree of spontenaity and honesty, not hiding their emotions. Neither was anyone deluded as to our need for God and for one another. I think there was a good balance between feeling and theology, and once again, the our coherence/truth was to be found not in &#8220;unity&#8221; but in our diversity and difference.</p>
<p>Divided we stand; united we fall &#8230; Viva!</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Tis the season to Workshop Worship by rogerW</title>
		<link>http://capeconversation.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/tis-the-season-to-workshop-worship/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>rogerW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;m sure Wimber was correct. Moreover, it seems as though the duration of those generations keeps getting shorter, and the plethora of new streams ever more prolific.

Here&#039;s a question, though: What would be the likely development if, instead of the minority -- or, as is more often the case, the ones and twos -- it were to be the majority in a stream or movement who elect to move on? Has that ever happened? And could it? To get even bolder in my dreaming: What if a radical lifestyle of ongoing pilgrimage should turn out to lie at the heart of the post-modern age?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m sure Wimber was correct. Moreover, it seems as though the duration of those generations keeps getting shorter, and the plethora of new streams ever more prolific.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a question, though: What would be the likely development if, instead of the minority &#8212; or, as is more often the case, the ones and twos &#8212; it were to be the majority in a stream or movement who elect to move on? Has that ever happened? And could it? To get even bolder in my dreaming: What if a radical lifestyle of ongoing pilgrimage should turn out to lie at the heart of the post-modern age?</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Tis the season to Workshop Worship by nic paton</title>
		<link>http://capeconversation.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/tis-the-season-to-workshop-worship/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>nic paton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger
Strong stuff - much appreciated. Your view is what is needed -experience with openness.

Perhaps we might agree with John Wimber that each movement should be of its generation only, and that it is right for each movement to be subsumed by whatver comes in its wake.

&quot;Emergent&quot; is a provisional label. I&#039;m planning to drop it when the time is right. 

However, I think what it addresses is the changing of an age. In my 30 years of church, I&#039;ve also thought of myself in &quot;cutting edge&quot; terms and grown tired. The advent of Post modernity has some features that were distinctly absent in 25 years of changing streams. 

We can discuss futhrer, thank you so much for you comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger<br />
Strong stuff &#8211; much appreciated. Your view is what is needed -experience with openness.</p>
<p>Perhaps we might agree with John Wimber that each movement should be of its generation only, and that it is right for each movement to be subsumed by whatver comes in its wake.</p>
<p>&#8220;Emergent&#8221; is a provisional label. I&#8217;m planning to drop it when the time is right. </p>
<p>However, I think what it addresses is the changing of an age. In my 30 years of church, I&#8217;ve also thought of myself in &#8220;cutting edge&#8221; terms and grown tired. The advent of Post modernity has some features that were distinctly absent in 25 years of changing streams. </p>
<p>We can discuss futhrer, thank you so much for you comment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Tis the season to Workshop Worship by rogerW</title>
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		<dc:creator>rogerW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On &quot;...we do not present worship as a product, but a process&quot; ...
 
Should it not ever remain such? During 54 years of church involvement (most of it on the so-called “prophetic cutting edge”) I participated in at least five major 20th Century new developments or “movements”. In a sense, each might have been termed “emergent” in that we were heaven-bent on leaving behind what had become dead and irrelevant in order to discover or create something that would be the very opposite. Sadly in none did we make it past the 10-year mark before we too were well on the way to becoming (you guessed it) dead, irrelevant – just like every other “movement” throughout the entirety of church history! 
How can we “post-modern emergents” change all that? I would suggest by never arriving, never exiting the process, ever refusing to produce a “product” – not only in terms of worship, but of everything else – beliefs, practices, service, mission – you name it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On &#8220;&#8230;we do not present worship as a product, but a process&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>Should it not ever remain such? During 54 years of church involvement (most of it on the so-called “prophetic cutting edge”) I participated in at least five major 20th Century new developments or “movements”. In a sense, each might have been termed “emergent” in that we were heaven-bent on leaving behind what had become dead and irrelevant in order to discover or create something that would be the very opposite. Sadly in none did we make it past the 10-year mark before we too were well on the way to becoming (you guessed it) dead, irrelevant – just like every other “movement” throughout the entirety of church history!<br />
How can we “post-modern emergents” change all that? I would suggest by never arriving, never exiting the process, ever refusing to produce a “product” – not only in terms of worship, but of everything else – beliefs, practices, service, mission – you name it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Tis the season to Workshop Worship by Jay Sandifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Sandifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. You may enjoy some of my music. If so let me know. If not let me go....transpire from faults of endless rage, I press on towards the mark of endless age.

http://martoosmusic.com/jbsandifer.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. You may enjoy some of my music. If so let me know. If not let me go&#8230;.transpire from faults of endless rage, I press on towards the mark of endless age.</p>
<p><a href="http://martoosmusic.com/jbsandifer.htm" rel="nofollow">http://martoosmusic.com/jbsandifer.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Tis the season to Workshop Worship by kimberley</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimberley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI guys
This might be a nice opportunity to include the kids in a more meaningful way.  SHould I volunteer to do a worship thing with the kids for a bit, or Thereasa will you try and include them in some way.  I know that we don&#039;t want Sunday School, but it&#039;s great to include them in some ways, even for a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI guys<br />
This might be a nice opportunity to include the kids in a more meaningful way.  SHould I volunteer to do a worship thing with the kids for a bit, or Thereasa will you try and include them in some way.  I know that we don&#8217;t want Sunday School, but it&#8217;s great to include them in some ways, even for a bit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Tis the season to Workshop Worship by jeremybeing</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremybeing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good wondering what was happening this Sunday. lets emerge together family and all - 
regards 
Jeremybeing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good wondering what was happening this Sunday. lets emerge together family and all &#8211;<br />
regards<br />
Jeremybeing</p>
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		<title>Comment on afrika burns 2008 + decompression gathering by Painless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Painless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Painless Ranger says, &quot;Yo ho ho from Tahoe!&quot;
Afrika Burns 2008 Rawked My World!!!
Thank you all for an amazing regional Burning Man event!
You have a friend for life here in the United States!  Come visit on your way to Burning Man!
Smile!
Painless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Painless Ranger says, &#8220;Yo ho ho from Tahoe!&#8221;<br />
Afrika Burns 2008 Rawked My World!!!<br />
Thank you all for an amazing regional Burning Man event!<br />
You have a friend for life here in the United States!  Come visit on your way to Burning Man!<br />
Smile!<br />
Painless</p>
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